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		<title>By: Jenny Levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *believe* this is illegal, but IANAL. What you can do as a private citizen for yourself is different from what you can do as an institution for multiple users. Note that I don&#039;t agree with this, am just noting that I believe it to be the case.

That said, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://tametheweb.com/2006/10/10/ttw-mailbox-sharing-itunes-copyright/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tametheweb.com/2006/10/10/ttw-mailbox-sharing-itunes-copyright/&lt;/a&gt;. I know the DOK Library in Delft, Holland, does this, too, in a really unique and fantastic way (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2342416374/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2342416374/&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2341586333/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2341586333/&lt;/a&gt;), but obviously American copyright law doesn&#039;t apply to them.

On the flip side, and admittedly not nearly as popular as  some of what you&#039;d load, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redferret.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.redferret.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;ll second the request to let us know if you pursue this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *believe* this is illegal, but IANAL. What you can do as a private citizen for yourself is different from what you can do as an institution for multiple users. Note that I don&#8217;t agree with this, am just noting that I believe it to be the case.</p>
<p>That said, check out <a href="http://tametheweb.com/2006/10/10/ttw-mailbox-sharing-itunes-copyright/" rel="nofollow">http://tametheweb.com/2006/10/10/ttw-mailbox-sharing-itunes-copyright/</a>. I know the DOK Library in Delft, Holland, does this, too, in a really unique and fantastic way (see <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2342416374/" rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2342416374/</a> and <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2341586333/" rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com/photos/shifted/2341586333/</a>), but obviously American copyright law doesn&#8217;t apply to them.</p>
<p>On the flip side, and admittedly not nearly as popular as  some of what you&#8217;d load, is <a href="http://www.redferret.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.redferret.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php</a>. I&#8217;ll second the request to let us know if you pursue this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Puckett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Puckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see absolutely zero wrong with it, Jason, and I&#039;ve wondered about doing the same thing here.  Then again, I don&#039;t work in reserves and am probably ignorant of some of the legal issues.  Would you post updates if anything comes of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see absolutely zero wrong with it, Jason, and I&#8217;ve wondered about doing the same thing here.  Then again, I don&#8217;t work in reserves and am probably ignorant of some of the legal issues.  Would you post updates if anything comes of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Griffey</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2008/03/15/itunes-and-libraries-question/#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Griffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle: oh, there are a billion ways around the &quot;not downloadable&quot; part of iTunes. But as I see it, I&#039;m only responsible for using a tool as it was meant to be used. If others are doing naughty things with it, it isn&#039;t my problem...esp. if I don&#039;t know it, or can&#039;t tell it&#039;s happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle: oh, there are a billion ways around the &#8220;not downloadable&#8221; part of iTunes. But as I see it, I&#8217;m only responsible for using a tool as it was meant to be used. If others are doing naughty things with it, it isn&#8217;t my problem&#8230;esp. if I don&#8217;t know it, or can&#8217;t tell it&#8217;s happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this conversation with the head of tech services, our copyright guru, a couple of months ago.  It was more geared to what we could do with our reserves and not part of our collection.

My ethical stance on copyright is a bit liberal as I grew up on Napster.  But, I believe that if the work is the library&#039;s and it stays in the library, like our reserves would, then it should be allowed.

Obviously this negates some of the restrictions on our reserves: like only allowing one student to view the work for two hours at a time (I made that up but we have rules like that).

I see the power in using iTunes for much more than just music - think movie collections - think student created projects - think recently recorded radio shows from the campus radio station.  It has a lot of potential if you&#039;re willing to bend some of these nasty copyright rules.

As you said: &lt;em&gt;anyone who has used iTunes knows, not downloadable.&lt;/em&gt;  Not the complete truth, I&#039;m sorry to say.  Do a search on Lifehack for itunes stuff and you&#039;re bound to find the right swiss army knife to get to the collection.

BUT - I&#039;m still just as curious about this as you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this conversation with the head of tech services, our copyright guru, a couple of months ago.  It was more geared to what we could do with our reserves and not part of our collection.</p>
<p>My ethical stance on copyright is a bit liberal as I grew up on Napster.  But, I believe that if the work is the library&#8217;s and it stays in the library, like our reserves would, then it should be allowed.</p>
<p>Obviously this negates some of the restrictions on our reserves: like only allowing one student to view the work for two hours at a time (I made that up but we have rules like that).</p>
<p>I see the power in using iTunes for much more than just music &#8211; think movie collections &#8211; think student created projects &#8211; think recently recorded radio shows from the campus radio station.  It has a lot of potential if you&#8217;re willing to bend some of these nasty copyright rules.</p>
<p>As you said: <em>anyone who has used iTunes knows, not downloadable.</em>  Not the complete truth, I&#8217;m sorry to say.  Do a search on Lifehack for itunes stuff and you&#8217;re bound to find the right swiss army knife to get to the collection.</p>
<p>BUT &#8211; I&#8217;m still just as curious about this as you are.</p>
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