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	<title>Comments on: Why ALA will never learn</title>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-07-11 &#124; Nudging Serendipity by Michael Habib</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2007/07/06/why-ala-will-never-learn/#comment-2903</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-07-11 &#124; Nudging Serendipity by Michael Habib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fu(tags: folksonomy research tagging thesis survey experiment TobiasKowatsch Folksonomies)Pattern Recognition Â» Why ALA will never learnBIGWIG got in trouble with LITA for not using enough LITA branding. However, I am joining LITA [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Uncontrolled Vocabulary #3 - It does beat waiting tables! &#124; Uncontrolled Vocabulary</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2007/07/06/why-ala-will-never-learn/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncontrolled Vocabulary #3 - It does beat waiting tables! &#124; Uncontrolled Vocabulary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael C. Habib</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2007/07/06/why-ala-will-never-learn/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C. Habib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disappointing.  The unconference was far and away my favorite part of the conference.  I attended a few other LITA events, but only to hang out with the folks I met at the unconference.

I have to renew my ALA membership over the next few weeks and I am going to join LITA because of BIGWIG and the unconference.

I repeat, I would not be joining LITA if it were not for BIGWIG and the Social Software Showcase.  Obviously BIGWIG mentioned LITA enough to convince me to join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointing.  The unconference was far and away my favorite part of the conference.  I attended a few other LITA events, but only to hang out with the folks I met at the unconference.</p>
<p>I have to renew my ALA membership over the next few weeks and I am going to join LITA because of BIGWIG and the unconference.</p>
<p>I repeat, I would not be joining LITA if it were not for BIGWIG and the Social Software Showcase.  Obviously BIGWIG mentioned LITA enough to convince me to join.</p>
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		<title>By: Shel</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2007/07/06/why-ala-will-never-learn/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Shel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason: I just wanted to let you know that ALA is not alone. I&#039;m very involved in ASTD and am Vp of Tech for our local chapter.

Social software has a HUGE impact on training needs. If we don&#039;t go with it, it could eliminate the need for many instructor-led trainers. Mine the existing knowledge, and all that. Personally, I evangelize it - adults learn more discussing things at the watercooler than in any instructor-led session.

However, there is a huge fear of technology. Everyone talks about informal learning, but moving forward is like walking through quicksand. The bureaucracy is stupid, and the red tape is thick.

I want to implement a CMS for our local chapter (Ack!  You mean not basic HTML!) and I&#039;ve built a board wiki that is like pulling teeth to get people to use. They asked for it, you know. I guess they didn&#039;t figure I&#039;d deliver. (They don&#039;t realize pbwiki is so easy to set up.) I sat through a board meeting yesterday and wanted to just bang my head against the wall the whole time.

So it&#039;s not just ALA. It&#039;s any volunteer organization that has done so well for so long by just staying the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason: I just wanted to let you know that ALA is not alone. I&#8217;m very involved in ASTD and am Vp of Tech for our local chapter.</p>
<p>Social software has a HUGE impact on training needs. If we don&#8217;t go with it, it could eliminate the need for many instructor-led trainers. Mine the existing knowledge, and all that. Personally, I evangelize it &#8211; adults learn more discussing things at the watercooler than in any instructor-led session.</p>
<p>However, there is a huge fear of technology. Everyone talks about informal learning, but moving forward is like walking through quicksand. The bureaucracy is stupid, and the red tape is thick.</p>
<p>I want to implement a CMS for our local chapter (Ack!  You mean not basic HTML!) and I&#8217;ve built a board wiki that is like pulling teeth to get people to use. They asked for it, you know. I guess they didn&#8217;t figure I&#8217;d deliver. (They don&#8217;t realize pbwiki is so easy to set up.) I sat through a board meeting yesterday and wanted to just bang my head against the wall the whole time.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not just ALA. It&#8217;s any volunteer organization that has done so well for so long by just staying the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 01:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Karen said.  I couldn&#039;t believe it when I saw this come through my aggregator!  And yet, I also completely understand why it did.  If I were an organization housing a rogue group that just got the best press possible, I&#039;d want to make sure people knew that was *my* rogue group, thank you very much.

Still, did they not notice the URL for the wiki?  It says &quot;lita&quot; there quite prominently.

Ah well, such is life, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Karen said.  I couldn&#8217;t believe it when I saw this come through my aggregator!  And yet, I also completely understand why it did.  If I were an organization housing a rogue group that just got the best press possible, I&#8217;d want to make sure people knew that was *my* rogue group, thank you very much.</p>
<p>Still, did they not notice the URL for the wiki?  It says &#8220;lita&#8221; there quite prominently.</p>
<p>Ah well, such is life, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several things bug me about the way that message was delivered:

1. The perfunctory &quot;good job&quot; message... as in, &quot;good job, BUT...&quot;
2. The use of the word &quot;serious.&quot; Serious, as in open-heart surgery or nuclear warhead? Hmmm, maybe not.
3. The focus on LITA-LITA-LITA.

That said, I can understand to a small degree why LITA might like to get its name connected to BIGWIG. You&#039;re doing a fabu-wonderful job, BIGWIG is hot as a pistol, and BIGWIG is a LITA IG. Hitching wagons to stars and all that. If I were a LITA muckety-muck, I would have smarmed up to you as much as possible. &quot;OOOOOOOOOOOOOOh, Jassssssonnnn, what a cooooooool wiki, can we get our LITA logo on it, kissy kissy kissy?&quot; The teachy-preachy finger-wagging message is just dumb, though not entirely unexpected. LITA is still scrabbling around for half a clue.

Any endeavor required to turn a slow-moving barge (thank you, Karen Coyle!) will of necessity require miring oneself in a bureacracy of frightening proportions. But another way to look at it is that ALA is a city of about 70,000 librarians, and with enough effort you, my friend, can be mayor.

Keep the oars in the water. Do not give up, and when messages like this arrive, do what you have done: refute them.

As for libraries that are less dysfunctional than ALA, mazel tov for you to have found them. Most bureacracies are dysfunctional by nature.

Anyway, fabu job on BIGWIG and don&#039;t be dissuaded by the occasional dumb-**s comment floating to the surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several things bug me about the way that message was delivered:</p>
<p>1. The perfunctory &#8220;good job&#8221; message&#8230; as in, &#8220;good job, BUT&#8230;&#8221;<br />
2. The use of the word &#8220;serious.&#8221; Serious, as in open-heart surgery or nuclear warhead? Hmmm, maybe not.<br />
3. The focus on LITA-LITA-LITA.</p>
<p>That said, I can understand to a small degree why LITA might like to get its name connected to BIGWIG. You&#8217;re doing a fabu-wonderful job, BIGWIG is hot as a pistol, and BIGWIG is a LITA IG. Hitching wagons to stars and all that. If I were a LITA muckety-muck, I would have smarmed up to you as much as possible. &#8220;OOOOOOOOOOOOOOh, Jassssssonnnn, what a cooooooool wiki, can we get our LITA logo on it, kissy kissy kissy?&#8221; The teachy-preachy finger-wagging message is just dumb, though not entirely unexpected. LITA is still scrabbling around for half a clue.</p>
<p>Any endeavor required to turn a slow-moving barge (thank you, Karen Coyle!) will of necessity require miring oneself in a bureacracy of frightening proportions. But another way to look at it is that ALA is a city of about 70,000 librarians, and with enough effort you, my friend, can be mayor.</p>
<p>Keep the oars in the water. Do not give up, and when messages like this arrive, do what you have done: refute them.</p>
<p>As for libraries that are less dysfunctional than ALA, mazel tov for you to have found them. Most bureacracies are dysfunctional by nature.</p>
<p>Anyway, fabu job on BIGWIG and don&#8217;t be dissuaded by the occasional dumb-**s comment floating to the surface.</p>
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