Comments on: UCLA Student Tasered in Library http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:50:45 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Catherine http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1095 Catherine Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:14:11 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1095 At MFPOW, at 11:30 pm, the only staff in the building would have been students (undergrad and grad assistants), and paraprofessionals. Depending on where the confrontation occurred (again, at MFPOW), none of those might have been anywhere nearby -- and yes, that includes near the main exit - that station was usually staffed by one paraprofessional and one security person. At MFPOW, at 11:30 pm, the only staff in the building would have been students (undergrad and grad assistants), and paraprofessionals. Depending on where the confrontation occurred (again, at MFPOW), none of those might have been anywhere nearby — and yes, that includes near the main exit – that station was usually staffed by one paraprofessional and one security person.

]]> By: JON http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1094 JON Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:36:56 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1094 unfortunately police officers are always considered guilty by the public until the courts prove them, not innocent but justified in their actions. this case is one that shouldn't need much explaining. 1. the student, who failed to prove he was a student, was asked to leave. HE DID NOT. 2. when leaving was confronted by police officers who now must assist this gentleman in leaving and he does not comply with their commands. IF HE CANNOT PROVIDE ID HE IS ASSUMED TO BE TRESSPASSING. 3. did not comply with officers and acted in a passive aggressive nature. calling upon other students to act with him is not only dangerous to himself but also to other students putting the officers in a defensive mindset. the officers must not only worry about the person they are trying to apprehend, but they must also worry about a large crowd of students gathering and yelling at them... put yourself in their shoes! alot of students, most of whom did not understand the student put himself in that position, are now angry and you and 2 other officers (1 or 2 not sure video is difficult) need to control a pissed off criminal and a large angry crowd who do not understand the law as well as the trained profesionals(most police officers!). BOTTOM LINE: the student F---ed up! unfortunately for him his bipolar disorder probably made the situation more difficult. the officers chose in this situation to use a taser instead of more hands on physical force. proving that a taser was more effective is difficult but, with the crowd of students that gathered quickly the taser in this instance is also used as a deterant, or an intimidator to the other students. unfortunately police officers are always considered guilty by the public until the courts prove them, not innocent but justified in their actions. this case is one that shouldn’t need much explaining. 1. the student, who failed to prove he was a student, was asked to leave. HE DID NOT. 2. when leaving was confronted by police officers who now must assist this gentleman in leaving and he does not comply with their commands. IF HE CANNOT PROVIDE ID HE IS ASSUMED TO BE TRESSPASSING. 3. did not comply with officers and acted in a passive aggressive nature. calling upon other students to act with him is not only dangerous to himself but also to other students putting the officers in a defensive mindset. the officers must not only worry about the person they are trying to apprehend, but they must also worry about a large crowd of students gathering and yelling at them… put yourself in their shoes! alot of students, most of whom did not understand the student put himself in that position, are now angry and you and 2 other officers (1 or 2 not sure video is difficult) need to control a pissed off criminal and a large angry crowd who do not understand the law as well as the trained profesionals(most police officers!). BOTTOM LINE: the student F—ed up! unfortunately for him his bipolar disorder probably made the situation more difficult.
the officers chose in this situation to use a taser instead of more hands on physical force. proving that a taser was more effective is difficult but, with the crowd of students that gathered quickly the taser in this instance is also used as a deterant, or an intimidator to the other students.

]]> By: Joy Holland http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1093 Joy Holland Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:13:37 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1093 I believe the boy tried to finish up what he doing in the computer lab before he took his backpack to leave. Not a criminal act, nor was acting slow to leave the building. He WAS leaving you know. The police were responsible for keeping peace and did not do it. Isn't their alternative title "Peace Officers"? Ever hear of "EXCESSIVE FORCE"??? The investigation of the excessive force of the police should be the correct response, not the boy in the library. It's all on tape. Use your eyes and your brain for what God intended, and be concerned about the citizens who want to downplay it. I believe the boy tried to finish up what he doing in the computer lab before he took his backpack to leave. Not a criminal act, nor was acting slow to leave the building. He WAS leaving you know. The police were responsible for keeping peace and did not do it. Isn’t their alternative title “Peace Officers”?

Ever hear of “EXCESSIVE FORCE”??? The investigation of the excessive force of the police should be the correct response, not the boy in the library. It’s all on tape. Use your eyes and your brain for what God intended, and be concerned about the citizens who want to downplay it.

]]> By: John Gallagher http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1092 John Gallagher Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:19:11 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1092 I agree that use of a taser is a significant act and one that needs to be used in conjunction with a thought out/common sense escalation of force plan. However, let's not forget the "victim" was guilty of failing to follow officer's directions. We all need to understand that the police are enforcing order. This individual should have exited the premises when initially asked. The whole episode would have ended there had he done so. Instead, he refuses to comply or "complies at his own speed" and so suffers his fate. Absolutely investigate the escalation of force. But remember the ownership the tased individual has here. The system has turned 180 degrees to the point where the guilty are always innocent (in the eyes of the media) and the police are always guilty. Let's remember who we rely on to save us when we're victims of lawless persons. A Concerned Citizen I agree that use of a taser is a significant act and one that needs to be used in conjunction with a thought out/common sense escalation of force plan. However, let’s not forget the “victim” was guilty of failing to follow officer’s directions. We all need to understand that the police are enforcing order. This individual should have exited the premises when initially asked. The whole episode would have ended there had he done so. Instead, he refuses to comply or “complies at his own speed” and so suffers his fate.

Absolutely investigate the escalation of force. But remember the ownership the tased individual has here. The system has turned 180 degrees to the point where the guilty are always innocent (in the eyes of the media) and the police are always guilty. Let’s remember who we rely on to save us when we’re victims of lawless persons.

A Concerned Citizen

]]> By: Chris http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1091 Chris Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:07:41 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1091 And this... Is why I hate cops. *and the speeding tickets don't help any.. And this… Is why I hate cops.

*and the speeding tickets don’t help any..

]]> By: explodedlibrary.info http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1090 explodedlibrary.info Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:14:31 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1090 <strong>librarian reactions to the taser incident in UCLA's Powell Library...</strong> ALA President Leslie Burger has written an open letter to UCLA Acting Chancellor, Norman Abrams, expressing her concern and shock at the taser incident which happened in the Powell Library on November 14, 2006. This follows condemnation by ACRLog and... librarian reactions to the taser incident in UCLA’s Powell Library…

ALA President Leslie Burger has written an open letter to UCLA Acting Chancellor, Norman Abrams, expressing her concern and shock at the taser incident which happened in the Powell Library on November 14, 2006. This follows condemnation by ACRLog and…

]]> By: Stephen http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1089 Stephen Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:40:52 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1089 Maybe UCLA is 1) hiring LAPD retirees, 2) hiring LAPD rejects, or 3) training with LAPD. Maybe UCLA is 1) hiring LAPD retirees, 2) hiring LAPD rejects, or 3) training with LAPD.

]]> By: Toni Carter http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1088 Toni Carter Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:30:56 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1088 That made me sick to my stomach. Unbelievable. That made me sick to my stomach. Unbelievable.

]]> By: Catherine http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1087 Catherine Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:14:56 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1087 Also, yikes. I think I'm going to be hearing his screams in my nightmares for a while. Also, yikes. I think I’m going to be hearing his screams in my nightmares for a while.

]]> By: Catherine http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1086 Catherine Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:10:38 +0000 http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2006/11/16/ucla-student-tasered-in-library/#comment-1086 At MFPOW, at 11:30 pm, the only staff in the building would have been students (undergrad and grad assistants), and paraprofessionals. Depending on where the confrontation occurred (again, at MFPOW), none of those might have been anywhere nearby -- and yes, that includes near the main exit - that station was usually staffed by one paraprofessional and one security person. At MFPOW, at 11:30 pm, the only staff in the building would have been students (undergrad and grad assistants), and paraprofessionals. Depending on where the confrontation occurred (again, at MFPOW), none of those might have been anywhere nearby — and yes, that includes near the main exit – that station was usually staffed by one paraprofessional and one security person.

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