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		<title>By: Pattern Recognition Blog Archive When is a tag not a tag &#124; Joint Pain Relief</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/11/21/when-is-a-tag-not-a-tag/#comment-862</link>
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		<description>[...] Pattern Recognition Blog Archive When is a tag not a tag   Posted by root 12 minutes ago (http://www.jasongriffey.net)        I was keen to see if the tags would dovetail with the existing subject headings comment guidelines hyperlinks are automatically generated tweet this post links powered by tweet this v1 3 9 a wordpress plugin for twitter        Discuss&#160;  &#124;&#160; Bury &#124;&#160;    News &#124; Pattern Recognition Blog Archive When is a tag not a tag [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Davey P</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/11/21/when-is-a-tag-not-a-tag/#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>Davey P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason

I wasn&#039;t far off - I managed to get the basics working on our test OPAC in about 3 hours, although there&#039;s still more work to do in terms of integrating it properly.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://wwwlibrarycat.hud.ac.uk/bib.html?379627&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wwwlibrarycat.hud.ac.uk/bib.html?379627&lt;/a&gt;

I was keen to see if the tags would dovetail with the existing subject headings, and there does seem to be a good correlation going on.

Even though less than 300 items have been tagged, there are some useful tag clouds being produced - e.g. &lt;a href=&quot;https://library.hud.ac.uk/perl/taginfo.pl?tag=76&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apache&lt;/a&gt;.

In the new year, I&#039;ll try and argue the case for having tags on the live OPAC.  In the meantime, John at Ann Arbor is busy working on adding tagging to their OPAC.

regards
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t far off &#8211; I managed to get the basics working on our test OPAC in about 3 hours, although there&#8217;s still more work to do in terms of integrating it properly.</p>
<p><a href="http://wwwlibrarycat.hud.ac.uk/bib.html?379627" rel="nofollow">wwwlibrarycat.hud.ac.uk/bib.html?379627</a></p>
<p>I was keen to see if the tags would dovetail with the existing subject headings, and there does seem to be a good correlation going on.</p>
<p>Even though less than 300 items have been tagged, there are some useful tag clouds being produced &#8211; e.g. <a href="https://library.hud.ac.uk/perl/taginfo.pl?tag=76" rel="nofollow">apache</a>.</p>
<p>In the new year, I&#8217;ll try and argue the case for having tags on the live OPAC.  In the meantime, John at Ann Arbor is busy working on adding tagging to their OPAC.</p>
<p>regards<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Davey P</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/11/21/when-is-a-tag-not-a-tag/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Davey P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason - firstly quick apologies as I&#039;d misread and thought it was Jessamyn who&#039;d wanted to see a OPAC that allowed tags ...now I&#039;ve said that, I suspect that she does too :-)

Having worked with both public and academic UK libraries, I suspect a public library would be in a better position to run with this very worthwhile experiment.

Ever since I started working with libraries (back in 1996) I&#039;ve always felt that &quot;audience participation&quot; is the key to getting people to really engage with the OPAC, and it depresses me to see how many of our students will simply walk away from our catalogue PCs if they don&#039;t find what they want via a general keyword search.  We need things that make our OPACs more â€œstickyâ€!

Well - a couple of hours with some good strong coffee for a decent working prototype, if nothing else!  Maybe one of these days I will :-)

Have fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8211; firstly quick apologies as I&#8217;d misread and thought it was Jessamyn who&#8217;d wanted to see a OPAC that allowed tags &#8230;now I&#8217;ve said that, I suspect that she does too <img src='http://jasongriffey.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Having worked with both public and academic UK libraries, I suspect a public library would be in a better position to run with this very worthwhile experiment.</p>
<p>Ever since I started working with libraries (back in 1996) I&#8217;ve always felt that &#8220;audience participation&#8221; is the key to getting people to really engage with the OPAC, and it depresses me to see how many of our students will simply walk away from our catalogue PCs if they don&#8217;t find what they want via a general keyword search.  We need things that make our OPACs more â€œstickyâ€!</p>
<p>Well &#8211; a couple of hours with some good strong coffee for a decent working prototype, if nothing else!  Maybe one of these days I will <img src='http://jasongriffey.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Griffey</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/11/21/when-is-a-tag-not-a-tag/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Griffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously? You could add tagging capabilities to your OPAC in a couple of hours?

*boggle*

I&#039;m lucky I understand anything about ours, as convoluted as it is. :-)

That said...I still think it&#039;s an experiment that needs to be done. I&#039;ve blogged a couple of times about the potentially interesting things we can find out when we start tagging objects in the real world. Love to see it happen, even if I&#039;m not technically competent enough to make it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? You could add tagging capabilities to your OPAC in a couple of hours?</p>
<p>*boggle*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m lucky I understand anything about ours, as convoluted as it is. <img src='http://jasongriffey.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said&#8230;I still think it&#8217;s an experiment that needs to be done. I&#8217;ve blogged a couple of times about the potentially interesting things we can find out when we start tagging objects in the real world. Love to see it happen, even if I&#8217;m not technically competent enough to make it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davey P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re 100% right Jason - mine was really an attempt to build a cloud from available data.

I&#039;d love to implement Jessamyn&#039;s suggestion, but I doubt the more &quot;senior&quot; librarians here would allow it.  My guess is that it would only take me a couple of hours to add that functionality to our PAC, but (at the moment) it would be too much of a radical step for some (perhaps many) of the staff to accept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re 100% right Jason &#8211; mine was really an attempt to build a cloud from available data.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to implement Jessamyn&#8217;s suggestion, but I doubt the more &#8220;senior&#8221; librarians here would allow it.  My guess is that it would only take me a couple of hours to add that functionality to our PAC, but (at the moment) it would be too much of a radical step for some (perhaps many) of the staff to accept.</p>
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		<title>By: jessamyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point. I think we mix our metaphors way too readily. I like this example because it shows this rough and ready &quot;aboutness&quot; sense of the catalog and if it were using tags, it would be telling us about our patrons as well. In any case, it&#039;s a cloud of some provenance that is taking tag metaphors and stretching them in areas no tag has gone before. Woo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point. I think we mix our metaphors way too readily. I like this example because it shows this rough and ready &#8220;aboutness&#8221; sense of the catalog and if it were using tags, it would be telling us about our patrons as well. In any case, it&#8217;s a cloud of some provenance that is taking tag metaphors and stretching them in areas no tag has gone before. Woo!</p>
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