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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/04/22/i-fight-authority/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but you&#039;re conflating process with judgment. I&#039;m talking about the judgment of &quot;what is knowledge&quot; or &quot;what is true.&quot; In cases where one must decide the veracity of a statement or belief, authority is, I argue, not the best way to make that judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but you&#039;re conflating process with judgment. I&#039;m talking about the judgment of &#8220;what is knowledge&#8221; or &#8220;what is true.&#8221; In cases where one must decide the veracity of a statement or belief, authority is, I argue, not the best way to make that judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Pattern Recognition &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More information evaluation&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/04/22/i-fight-authority/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Pattern Recognition &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More information evaluation&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I think I may have mentioned, Authority is my pet peeve when it comes to information evaluation. We&#8217;ve seen the sorts of trouble we get into when we put to much stock in authority. Why do we keep using it? I believe that it&#8217;s a holdover from a pre-network, pre-Internet, pre-digital world, where cross-checking many things was simply too difficult to manage. We upheld authority in those cases due to a simple inability to compare pieces of information easily and determine what is supported by research and what is not. That&#8217;s not the case anymore, however&#8230;nearly anything is easily fact-checked, or at the very least examined to determine if it coheres with other facts. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I think I may have mentioned, Authority is my pet peeve when it comes to information evaluation. We&#8217;ve seen the sorts of trouble we get into when we put to much stock in authority. Why do we keep using it? I believe that it&#8217;s a holdover from a pre-network, pre-Internet, pre-digital world, where cross-checking many things was simply too difficult to manage. We upheld authority in those cases due to a simple inability to compare pieces of information easily and determine what is supported by research and what is not. That&#8217;s not the case anymore, however&#8230;nearly anything is easily fact-checked, or at the very least examined to determine if it coheres with other facts. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Pomerantz</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/04/22/i-fight-authority/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Pomerantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that horses&#039; teeth example sounds pretty goofy out of context.

I just reread your Thoughts on Epistemology and Authority post &amp; it occurred to me that one argument for authority is this: an authority is a person who has a network of facts at their fingertips, who knows what the surrounding pieces of knowledge are. It&#039;s not that information is true because an authority says so, stone-tablets-and-Mount-Sinai style. It&#039;s that an authority is more likely than a not-authority to know what truth is, because they&#039;re walking around with the relevant network of facts in their head. To borrow your doctor example: it&#039;s not that I have whatever disease because the doctor says I do, it&#039;s that the doctor can look at my symptoms &amp; bring their knowledge &amp; experience to bear &amp; determine that I have whatever disease.

Anything in the coherence theory literature about how a network of justification in one person&#039;s head maps to a network of justification in the world, or vice versa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that horses&#8217; teeth example sounds pretty goofy out of context.</p>
<p>I just reread your Thoughts on Epistemology and Authority post &amp; it occurred to me that one argument for authority is this: an authority is a person who has a network of facts at their fingertips, who knows what the surrounding pieces of knowledge are. It&#8217;s not that information is true because an authority says so, stone-tablets-and-Mount-Sinai style. It&#8217;s that an authority is more likely than a not-authority to know what truth is, because they&#8217;re walking around with the relevant network of facts in their head. To borrow your doctor example: it&#8217;s not that I have whatever disease because the doctor says I do, it&#8217;s that the doctor can look at my symptoms &amp; bring their knowledge &amp; experience to bear &amp; determine that I have whatever disease.</p>
<p>Anything in the coherence theory literature about how a network of justification in one person&#8217;s head maps to a network of justification in the world, or vice versa?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/04/22/i-fight-authority/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but you&#039;re conflating process with judgment. I&#039;m talking about the judgment of &quot;what is knowledge&quot; or &quot;what is true.&quot; In cases where one must decide the veracity of a statement or belief, authority is, I argue, not the best way to make that judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but you&#8217;re conflating process with judgment. I&#8217;m talking about the judgment of &#8220;what is knowledge&#8221; or &#8220;what is true.&#8221; In cases where one must decide the veracity of a statement or belief, authority is, I argue, not the best way to make that judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://jasongriffey.net/wp/2005/04/22/i-fight-authority/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studying the web of interconnections is a good idea, certainly.  However, as academia can attest to, gathering all of the &quot;experts&quot; in one place, or even in one virtual environment, can bog down a process beyond belief.  With no one to lead the group or set goals and expectations, a lot of times there can be too much pointless discussion on tangents, or too much time spent on two people&#039;s particular argument that isn&#039;t really the main issue.

This is not to say that considering all aspects and opinions on a problem is counterproductive.  However, without a deadline or as sense of urgency, often all you get is academic discussion and no real product.  Authority can sometimes provide that sense of urgency and produce the final word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studying the web of interconnections is a good idea, certainly.  However, as academia can attest to, gathering all of the &#8220;experts&#8221; in one place, or even in one virtual environment, can bog down a process beyond belief.  With no one to lead the group or set goals and expectations, a lot of times there can be too much pointless discussion on tangents, or too much time spent on two people&#8217;s particular argument that isn&#8217;t really the main issue.</p>
<p>This is not to say that considering all aspects and opinions on a problem is counterproductive.  However, without a deadline or as sense of urgency, often all you get is academic discussion and no real product.  Authority can sometimes provide that sense of urgency and produce the final word.</p>
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